tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293643013821611045.post6450235661089214263..comments2024-03-10T05:10:30.779-05:00Comments on Sauer & Steiner: Re-visiting weight - an A1Ti panelKonradhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03975387560456769892noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293643013821611045.post-26209431728949865922011-10-27T16:06:46.796-05:002011-10-27T16:06:46.796-05:00Hi Pete,
Glad they helped.
The insides are weld...Hi Pete,<br /><br />Glad they helped. <br /><br />The insides are welded as well - and the welds were deliberately kept away from the visible ends and inside the mouth. The infills were chamfered on the edges to fit around the welding, but were left square on the ends so it looked right. Good eye!<br /><br />Cheers,<br />KonradKonradhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03975387560456769892noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293643013821611045.post-86297696214398308082011-10-27T13:16:13.448-05:002011-10-27T13:16:13.448-05:00Hi Konrad, thanks for adding the extra pics- I hav...Hi Konrad, thanks for adding the extra pics- I have a TIG welder and have considered welding up a shell, glad to know it's certainly doable!<br /><br />It looks like he welded the inside corner as well, but perhaps didn't use any filler so that you didn't have to somehow grind that corner square before adding the infill? Or did you chamfer the bottom edge of the infil along most of the length, and leave the infill square at the heel and toe of the plane, where it's visible? I can see that he stopped welding the inside corner short of those areas.<br /><br />Thanks again,<br /><br />PetePetehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11431260618396989458noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293643013821611045.post-65850725301045936482011-10-27T11:49:35.662-05:002011-10-27T11:49:35.662-05:00JW,
Pot-stirring is always welcome.
The issue o...JW,<br /><br />Pot-stirring is always welcome. <br /><br />The issue of a heavy plane tilting is a very valid one. I agree with you in principle - but it may depend on how you edge joint your work. If you are edge jointing a rough sawn edge - then a heavy jointer may not be ideal (rough edge not square, flat or level). But if you have a mechanical jointer and use a jointing plane to get the edge perfect - then a heavy jointer may offer an advantage. When I am truing up and edge - I take advantage of a camber in the blade so I can keep the sole of the plane positively registered on the work. In this case, heavy feels like an advantage because it sticks to the surface. Trying to balance a heavy plane on a high edge to bring something into square is a bit of a nightmare and I would certainly prefer a lighter plane than a heavy one in this instance. <br /><br />Your observation about a taller coffin shaped smoother is right on the money. Larry and I talked quite a few times When I was developing the XSNo.4. The additional height of the rear infill helps fill out ones hand and does help with feeling of square. It also keeps your fingers from being crunched up. <br /><br />Cheers,<br />KonradKonradhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03975387560456769892noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293643013821611045.post-78053304962353803472011-10-27T09:14:38.224-05:002011-10-27T09:14:38.224-05:00Just for the sake of stirring the pot some more......Just for the sake of stirring the pot some more...<br /><br />A few years ago, I was at a class being taught by Larry Williams, and got to use some of the wedged coffin smoothers that he brought with him. After that, I started to think that the reverse is true about being able to gauge tilting and feedback. <br /><br />I think it's easier to tilt a heavy plane, precisely because they're so heavy. But the advantage of the coffin smoother wasn't in the weight... it was height, and in the way the plane is held. Because the fingers sit on the vertical side of the plane, instead of twining around the handle, and because the plane was so tall, I found that it was easier to feel the plane tipping, or not, as compared to a handled plane.JWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07289004672943813238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293643013821611045.post-52557965737239713512011-10-25T10:45:29.131-05:002011-10-25T10:45:29.131-05:00That is one gorgeous plane. Not only is it beauti...That is one gorgeous plane. Not only is it beautiful, it's probably indestructable :-). As always, great work Konrad! On your next one, in-process photos would be much appreciated. Thanks!Matt Owenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07811206534996944997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293643013821611045.post-62578563625435182262011-10-24T17:00:08.746-05:002011-10-24T17:00:08.746-05:00Here ya go Pete. I hope these are helpful - they a...Here ya go Pete. I hope these are helpful - they are the only 2 shots I have of the welded shell. You can click on them for a larger view. <br /><br />Cheers,<br />KonradKonradhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03975387560456769892noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293643013821611045.post-82360577597757041252011-10-24T12:40:11.307-05:002011-10-24T12:40:11.307-05:00Konrad,
Very nice post, but as a hobbyist welder ...Konrad,<br /><br />Very nice post, but as a hobbyist welder I'd love to see a pic of the welded shell before you worked your magic on it!<br /><br />PetePetehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11431260618396989458noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293643013821611045.post-40116684215927604062011-10-21T20:02:54.454-05:002011-10-21T20:02:54.454-05:00Thanks Chris,
I do have enough Ti to make a few m...Thanks Chris,<br /><br />I do have enough Ti to make a few more - and another one is already in the works.<br /><br />Cheers,<br />KonradKonradhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03975387560456769892noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293643013821611045.post-46384670716012993522011-10-21T20:01:35.273-05:002011-10-21T20:01:35.273-05:00Hi Steve,
A great question. I am not sure to be h...Hi Steve,<br /><br />A great question. I am not sure to be honest, but will play around with the Ti plane a bit more and see if the material feels different. I know that 01 feels very different than a cast plane - you may be on to something here. <br /><br />thanks,<br />KonradKonradhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03975387560456769892noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293643013821611045.post-23203920305514486752011-10-21T20:00:18.915-05:002011-10-21T20:00:18.915-05:00Thanks Richard,
Hugh did an amazing job with the ...Thanks Richard,<br /><br />Hugh did an amazing job with the welding. Most of the uneven surface was lapped out within the first few rounds - which is pretty amazing when you consider how abrasive resistant Ti is. <br /><br />I agree that some weight is nice, but I do like the way a wooden try plane feels too. An interesting point about the weight factoring into the feeling of tilting over - I will pay closer attention to that next time I am doing some edge jointing. <br /><br />Cheers,<br />KonradKonradhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03975387560456769892noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293643013821611045.post-59115552914095357412011-10-21T13:19:40.200-05:002011-10-21T13:19:40.200-05:00What a fabulous piece of work Konrad!
I think you...What a fabulous piece of work Konrad!<br /><br />I think you ad better figure out a way of making them faster - plenty of folk are going to want one...<br /><br />ChrisChris Knighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05085216585955185866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293643013821611045.post-65808264772667548632011-10-21T12:22:26.471-05:002011-10-21T12:22:26.471-05:00Hi Konrad,
It has been written many a time that...Hi Konrad,<br /> It has been written many a time that wood soled planes glide over wood with less friction than a metal soled plane. Are there any subtle differences between the different metals you have used on your planes?<br /><br />SteveSteve Kirincichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07143073306973836007noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5293643013821611045.post-65364134234628621222011-10-21T11:02:00.496-05:002011-10-21T11:02:00.496-05:00Konrad,
This plane looks as amazing as I thought ...Konrad,<br /><br />This plane looks as amazing as I thought it would. Being a cyclist who only rides Titanium, I really like the look and feel. The welding job was amazing but the lapping moreso, looks very smooth and clean - love that titanium colour.<br /><br />On your point about solid/feel/weight, I think that the weight is definitely part of the feeling of confidence one has when using an infill; I think the weight exaggerates any tilting or movement and provides better feedback and thus control to the user. A lighter plane you do not feel its position as much, because there is less mass to feedback on - my 2 cents anyway.Richard Wilehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00174534486190999877noreply@blogger.com